Just watching Backchat and can't believe Stevo genuinely believe's this? Surely he's on a wind up to say this about a group of players that have won the Grand Final and Challenge Cup final in the past 2 years!

Wigan are mentally tough Stevo is just talking through his !

He mentally bloody challenged.

It may be that Stevo is right, or at least that Wigan are not as "mentally tough" as Leeds - the statistics would seem to bear this out. Regardless of this, I was given the distinct impression while watching the "Backchat" programme that the other participants are becoming increasingly weary of Stevo's attempts to propogate meaningless arguments.

What stats are those, first win in 7 against Wigan hardly suggest this.

Back chat has just gone downhill quite quickly. It would be great if it wasn't for Rod Studd and Stevo. They ruin it and turn it into the same sort of vacuous crap you get from the Sky commentary team.

As for Wigan not being mentally tough, the two trophies in two years proves otherwise, although the team is perhaps not as good in the big games as Leeds are. I doubt that's surprising though as they have some very experienced players who have won countless trophies over their careers.

Don't confuse them with facts.

Losses in Knock out games - Leeds x2, Saints x1

Wins in Knock Out Games - St Helens x3, Leeds x2, Warrington x1

Thats since 2010 against (what I'm classing as) the big sides, the period they panned us for. The arguments on that programme were total garbage really.

Not knocking Leeds, they deserved it Saturday, but they've had cup drawns v Leigh and Salford this year and got Cas in the semi last season. We've had, clearly, the hardest cup draws and ain't done too badly out of it!

Yes, but you can prove[i anything [/iwith facts.

We are worse in the "big games" than Leeds.

Absolutely no doubt in my mind that this is the case.

We really need to learn the winning habit and desire of great teams, and quickly.

Sure Warrington knocked Wigan out of the challenge cup in 2010, or have you just excluded that stat??

Rod Studd is getting on my wick, doesn't give anyone else a chance to speak and even Stevo can't get a word in sideways with him