Watched Super League Back Chat and there isn't a week that goes by where he isn't pushing P & R, and irritatingly shouts down anyone that dares disagree with him.

Is there a chance we could get a journalist on this show that actually knows what the hell they are talking about?

I would also appreciate it if they stopped saying that all of the fans want it back because that isn't the case. I know just as many who are against that are for.

Memo to Rod Studd and the other so called journalists on BackChat:

[uPromotion & Relegation is a british sporting tradition, but so is losing. [/u

Why can't we just stick to one thing for a few years without chopping and changing?

As a London fan, you ought to be excited at the prospect of your club being presented with an opportunity to contest more meaningful fixtures next season. Having to target a minimum 12th placed finish next season surely has to be a better and more exciting nose bleed prospect than simply being handed a license to drift along in 13th or 14th position in perpetuity?

Where is the motivation for the club to improve when it is rewarded each season for being utterly crap?

Exactly.

The new P&R rules are for 2015, please get your facts right Keith.
Oh and we haven't finished in a relegation spot yet, unlike other clubs who have been saved from such a fate.

I'm aware of that but there remains the need to get rid of 2 current SL clubs before 2015, therefore how would you suggest this will be achieved fairly other than the P&R route and by finishing 13th or 14th in 2014?


Exactly! P&R shouldn't be a worry for London fans then.

[url=http://littlegrubbers.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/brief-history-of-promotion-and.htmlNo it ain't[/url

See also, "First past the post is the way we decided who the Champions are."

(Burnham should stick to the day job anyway.)

Well I am not the only one who thinks he is right.

Roy Studd is talking sense. Sorry you don't agree but this sport will die without promotion and relegation.

Bring back Promotion and Relegation....it worked so well before.



1996 Workington Town: Currently Mid table in the 2nd Tier after a few dark seasons staring at the Abyss.
1997 Oldham Bears: Currently as the Roughyeds in Champ 1 after going to the wall with 2 million in debts from trying to stay up
1997 Part 2: PSG folded.....with massive debts
1998: Hudds finished bottom but were saved
1999: Hudds merged with Sheffield to stay up
2000: Hudds/Sheffield bottom but saved again
2001: Huddersfield: Currently sitting pretty in SL with one of the strongest squads and a Sugar Daddy.
2002: Salford: Cellar Dwellars but with a new impatient Sugar Daddy keen to break the cap


2003: Halifax: Currently a Championship heavy hitter with a business plan that most definitely wasn't written on the back of a beermat


2004: Castleford Tigers: Currently cellar dwelling with troubles surrounding a new ground and other finances.
2005: Leigh: Now you see us, now you don't. A club that actually seems happy where it is in the Championship.
2005 PART 2: Widnes Vikings....relegated to make way for the smelly French....they went bust on debts accrued trying to stay up/get promoted.
2006: Castleford Tigers (again)....
2007: Salford City Reds (again)....
2008: Closed the trap door.

From what I can see, Huddersfield benefited from being saved a number of times before getting the chance to regroup, whilst all the other clubs that have gone down have not kicked on or prospered.

Of the clubs to have earned promotion but been denied since 2009...Barrow, Halifax, Sheffield and Featherstone Rovers, which would have delivered more than Catalans, Crusaders (2) or Widnes.

Yep, the Welsh were a mistake......but who says SL isn't better off for the inclusion of the white flag waving surrender monkeys?

Last year/This season, Widnes would have been replaced by Sheffield Eagles.....who would have not known they were playing in SL until September 30th.....by which stage, most, if not all the decent players available would have been snapped up.

Sheffield played their "cup final" v London last weekend......the worst London side in the history of SL....they came up short....they would be perennial whipping boys for the year and in all probability, without a sugar daddy, go to the wall trying to stay up.

Yeah....let's bring back promotion and relegation and while we're at it, remove the regulations regarding overseas players and do away with the cap.....we'll have a 4 year free for all and then a reversion to a semi-pro league with maybe 2 big clubs winning everything and it'll all be available to watch on Premier Sports TV in a Rileys snooker hall near you:CRAZY:

Gatehead and Hull ??

No intention of knocking London, but they have NEVER been promoted to warrant SL status. At least the clubs you have mentioned have achieved this (the hard way !!)

London were placed in SL to sell Sky Dishes. It ain't working and their crowds show that.

London being potentially involved in a really competative League they can do well in, should result in the London fanbase increasing, not relying on the top teams topping up the attendances by 3k !

The RFL have had to take evasive action. Franchising hasn't worked and too many big SL clubs (including London) have been in difficulty,

It was inevitable P&R has returned IMHO.

It was inevitable because most of the fans and administrators are stupid idiots.

Spot on...the entire licencing farce has stumbled from error to catastrophe and all the while, the RFL has stood by and watched it happen.

That said, as a London supporter, I have little sympathy for us now......if we are relegated in 2015 or if we don't make it that far, it's not like we weren't warned.

The only way to save London NOW is for David Hughes to hand back the licence NOW.....mid season. The RFL would soon get their fingers out and sort out assistance rather than just paying lip service to the "expansionist" lobby in Red Hall.

Licensing hasn't caused the problems that any clubs may have faced. Don't try to use that as a scapegoat for sheer bad management